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The Holy Trinity and Christ’s Divinity

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Some “Christian” religious sects do not believe in the Holy Trinity. Most of these sects believe Jesus to be just a prophet or an angel and not God. These religious sects are usually very studied in their doctrines and will often attack the Catholic Faith in a very convincingly manner.  The beliefs of these sects can at first sound very convincing, but when one closely examines their theologies, Bible interpretations, and Bible translations, many contradictions and errors begin to appear.  

Dealing with Jehovah Witness's............

Jehovah Witness's believe that Jesus Christ is actually Michael The Arc Angel who became a man called Jesus (not God) through Mary.  They believe that Jesus was crucified and his human body died and no longer exists.  His spirit then emerged from the tomb to become a god, but not the God.  So by their doctrine Christ was three successive and independent beings.

When dealing with Jehovah Witnesses keep in mind that they use a transliteration (New World Translation (NWT)) of the Bible, which is very different from a Catholic or Protestant Bible.  The NWT states that it's translators rendered the Hebrew Tetragrammaton or YHWH (which means Lord) 6828 times to read Jehovah instead of Yahweh.  They have done this in both the Old Testament and the New Testament even though the New Testament was almost entirely written in Koine Greek and does not contain the Tetragrammaton.

The Jehovah Witness's will refer to God the Father as" Jehovah God" or Lord.  When the Bible describes Jesus as Lord and being equal to God the Jehovah Witness's change "Lord" to "lord" and "God" to "god".  By using a little "l" and "g" in Lord and God they are denoting that Jesus is a lesser god than God the Father.  They claim that their bible translators translated these passages correctly even through when you examine the Koine Greek texts it's obvious that they are not consistent in their translations.  Simply put, they have purposely made Christ less than God to suit their man made theology.  Keep in mind that there are scripture verses where they did not render Lord as Jehovah because if they did certain verses would contradict their belief that Jesus is not God.  In these cases they leave the words Lord or God, but they use a little "l" or "g".   

Here's one example of their inconsistent translations where the translators changed the Greek word for Lord in one verse, but not in the other verse even though the Koine Greek word for "Lord" used is exactly the same in both verses.

From the New World Translation:  (Luke 1: 41-45)   Well, as Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the infant in her womb leaped; and Elizabeth was filled with holy spirit, and she called out with a loud cry and said: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! So how is it that this [privilege] is mine, to have the mother of my Lord come to me? For, look! as the sound of your greeting fell upon my ears, the infant in my womb leaped with great gladness. Happy too is she that believed, because there will be a complete performance of those things spoken to her from Jehovah.”

Lastly, the Jehovah Witness's also have many other strange and dangerous doctrines which they believe in.  For example, they believe in two heavens:  one Heaven on Earth and one Heaven in the Cosmos (in the Constellation Pleiades).  They also believe that only 144,000  people will enter the heaven of Jehovah.  All others who are saved, who are not the chosen ones, will end up on the heavenly earth.  The Jehovah Witness's also believe that Mary was a sinner and that she had many other children.  The Jehovah Witness's will also deny that Christ was Crucified on a Cross.  They instead insist that the Cross is a pagan symbol (they do not believe in symbols or statues) and that Jesus was really crucified on a "torture stake" or "pole".  Yes, it's all very confusing!


Bible verses that can be used to defend the Holy Trinity:

“That Jesus Christ is 'Lord.”   (Phil 2:11)  The Jehovah Witness’s did not render Lord as Jehovah here.  Why?  Because then Christ would be Jehovah (God) and it would say something they do not want it to say!!Their false translation uses a little "L" here to denote that Christ was not equal to Jehovah God.  “And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and she exclaimed with a loud cry, ‘Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?”   (Luke 1:41-43).  Thee Jehovah Witness’s did not render Lord as Jehovah here.

“For to what angel did God ever say, "Thou art my Son, today I have begotten thee"?” (Heb 1:5)  Jesus is not an angel!

“But when the Archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you."”  (Jude 1:9)   Michael the Archangel is not the Lord (IE Christ) according to this passage!  Also, in Rev 12:5, there is Jesus Christ, and in Rev 12:7, there is Michael again.   From these verses it's clear that Jesus Christ is a separate person from Michael the Archangel.

“Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind,”  (Col 2:18)  If Jesus is an Angel then we are not to worship him, but according to 1Peter 4:11 we are told to adore or worship Jesus.

"whoever speaks, as one who utters oracles of God; whoever renders service, as one who renders it by the strength which God supplies; in order that in everything God may be glorified through Jesus Christ. To him belong glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."  (1 Peter 4:10-11)

“And behold, Jesus met them and said, "Hail!" And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him. (Matt 28:9)  Jesus is worshiped here so he must be God.

"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government will be upon his shoulder, and his name will be called ‘Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace’" (Is. 9:6).

"Simon Peter replied, ‘You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ And Jesus answered him, ‘Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven’" (Matt. 16:16-17).

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" (John 1:1).  Why does the  NWT translate this passage as  “the word was a god”?  If the NWT didn’t change the words around here then this passage would say that the Word (Jesus Christ) is God and not a god.

“Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58).

“I and the Father are one”  (John 10:30)

“but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”  (John 10:38)

“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.”  (John 6:44)  Only God can raise the dead so Jesus must be God.  

"For in him (Christ) the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily" (Col. 2:9).

"In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.  He reflects the glory of God and bears the very stamp of his nature, upholding the universe by his word of power . . ." (Heb. 1:1-3).

“But of the Son he says, "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom. . . . And, "Thou, Lord, didst found the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of thy hands.” (Heb. 1:8, 10)

“Then God said, ‘Let us make man in our image, after our likeness . . .’” (Gen. 1:26).

“Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”  (Matt) 28:19  The Trinity.

"But Peter said, ‘Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back part of the proceeds of the land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? How is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.’" (Acts 5:3-4)   The Holy Spirit is God according to this verse.

“The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all”  (2 Cor. 13:14).  

One Last Thing:  When dealing with Jehovah Witness's and other religious sects it is important to remember that you will most likely not be able to change their minds on the Trinity and other matters no matter how logical your reasoning is.  The most important thing we as Christians can do is to show them that we to love God and each other and we should continually pray for their conversion. Dealing with Jehovah Witness's............

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*Note:  This page was not created for the sole purpose of attacking Jehovah Witness's.  Jehovah Witness's are extremely friendly people who have a great deal of love for their faith and God.  They spend countless hours in study of their faith (something we as Catholics should emulate in our own Faith) and they are very devoted to spreading their message to others.  However, the Jehovah Witness's are one the most prevalent religious sects within our local Christian community and most of us at some point will encounter their theologies when they knock on our doors.  We should always be prepared to defend our Catholic beliefs when they are questioned.  

“Always be prepared to make a defense to any one who calls you to account for the hope that is in you, yet do it with gentleness and reverence”  (1 Peter 3:15)

Math Formulas and a Calculator

144,000! 

Let’s do some Math!    

 

12,000 X 12 = 144,000
12,000 (symbolic number for each tribe)  X  12  (12 tribes of Israel) = 144,000


12 X 1000 = 12,000  thus each Tribe symbolically contains 12,000 members.


1000 is a symbolic number in the Bible meaning very numerous. We find this symbolism being used in many places in both testaments.  It’s used 7 times just in the Book of Revelation.  If we are to take this passage literally then we must also believe that the
144,000 will only come from the 12 tribes of Israel, thus excluding us as Gentiles.

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